Jeffrey Wood of The Overhead Wire is joined by Christof Spieler who wrote the new book, Trains, Buses, People for a Streetsblog USA podcast on Talking Headways. Christof talks about how transit isn’t a mystery. We all know what makes it work. Ultimately, the problem is we’re not having the right conversations about transit. Jeff also asks questions about Christof’s time on the Houston Metro board. They discuss why it’s valuable to have people who are riding the bus and thinking about transit all the time be a part of the agency discussion.